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    February 13, 2013
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glory on facebook. reflecting in our cameo. what a night. even a conservative co-host of the view, likening the senator to the winner of westminster. and since the press was laughing it up, senator rubio played along, tweeting out a fphoto ofa bottle and bringing along a prop. >> i needed water. what am i going to do. god has a funny way of reminding us we're human. >> the last time at the republican convention. after clint eastwood left the podium, he arrived, thirsty. but he isn't the only one drowning in water jokes. john boehner drowned his sorrows and compared robert pattinson's nervous tick to water sip. >> we've got to talk about
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"twilight." >> there are rumors -- >> when paul ryan debated joe biden for the vice presidentsy, his sips ended up as a skit on snl. >> i may not go every sunday, but on christmas eve -- >> two handed chug with one thing. comedians made fun of what they called marco rubio's cotton mouth dry noises. >> thank you for listening. may god bless all of you. >> we'll toast to that. jeanne moos, cnn. >> i want to say, folks -- >> new york. >> she's very funny. >> i got one. that's it for us. erin burnett "outfront" starts erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com we are moments away from a news conference where we expect to learn what happened in that cabin outside los angeles yesterday. last night, we heard this.
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>> burn it down! >> just do it, right now! [ bleep ]. >> in a few moment, we hope to find out if the body found in that cabin is the suspected cop killer and also what led to his death. plus, thousands of people are trapped on board a crippled carnival cruise ship. they're running low on supplies and living this their own filth. and two of president obama's key nominations could be on hold. one of the senators considering a delay, rand paul, is with us to tell you why. let's go "outfront." and good evening, everyone. tonight, we have breaking news on the los angeles man hunt that
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ended with a body dead inside a mountain cabin. in just a couple of moment, we could learn if christopher dorner was the man found last night. authorities have been working to identify the charred remains and police say they have reason to believe it is dorner. now, dorner had been on the run since last week. he had targeted his former fellow officers with a los angeles police department. he is now accused of killing four people, including two officers. there are a lot of questions tonight for the san bernardino county sheriff's office, which led the operations last night. one of the most important questions, did police set the cabin ablaze? miguel marquez is out front. i know we're going to go that t.o. that the second we have it, but what are you expegting them to answer? >> well, i can tell you right
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off the bat, we've heard there's a two minute call and that will be starting in just a couple of minutes. we are hoping to learn, one, if the body discovered in that cabin up in the mountains here was in fact christopher dorner. every indication and every source that we have says it was. local press reporting his wall let was also found in that cabin, so we expect that may come tonight. it may not be a full confirmation, but they may have dental records. the family may have been able to identify him. there may be tattoos, scars. they are talking about doing something nor intense like a genetic testing, but the search for mr. dorner on that hill has certainly stopped, so we have a good sense that he has been found. other questions as you mentioned coming in. is is how that cabin actually caught fire and who is responsible for that. >> and let me ask you that question. a lot of people are wondering,
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did they have the ability to take him alive and not do it? were there perhaps any choices or mistakes made that led to him being killed? is that something we're going to get specific answers on? >> we expect to certainly and we hope to. we don't know that we will. there's a slew of enforcement agencies that will be here. the san bernardino sheriff, the irvine chief, riverside chief. we hope to get a lot of those questions answered and how it happened that this fire took off. mr. dorner, after a long chase yesterday afternoon ended up in a cabin. it was surrounded by police. it wasn't clear to me it was s.w.a.t. team or not, but a fire did ensue. there was recording that indicated that they wanted to bring in the burners and
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possibly burn it down. that is not typical s.w.a.t. tactics and so, there are lots of questions how that happened. i also understand that mr. dorner's cell phone went on shortly after he was known again to be out and about and there may have been some communication with him. we hope to ask that as well as to whether or not there was any communication with mr. dorner. did he give any indication he wanted to give himself up or did this just turn into a after another depp it was shot and killed, did this just turn into a situation where deputies were going in to get him. >> right. going in to get him. you said it very well there. i want to ask you a question about the fire. from our reporting here, there was no attempt to put that fire out at first. is that standard operating procedure? or do you think that the hesitancy on that or delay would
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lead to a conclusion in terms of their intent, again, dead or alive? >> what we understand, they went in with very heavy equipment to tear down the walls, to introduce gas into that structure. there were explosions, ammunition going off. they did hear one single shot, what sounded like a single shot in that structure as well. there was concern for the safety of firefighters going in there in the event somebody survived. it did sound for some time as he could have escaped into the woods. sheriff's department saying think they didn't have the entire house surrounded. they had helicopters overhead, so there was a lot of confusion, clearly, in their operation as well and we help to hear today from the sheriff himself on how everything played out in literally a minute by minute fashion because it is not typical for deputies to burn
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down a house essentially in order to get somebody out. >> all right. i mean, we're obviously waiting for this press conference to begin any moment. let me bring in william brattan, former chair of the l.a.p.d. what do you think about this? this issue? obviously, it's very difficult in the heat of the moment. you're trying to get somebody, but from what you understand of all the details that happened last night, do you think every possible effort was made to recover him alive or not? >> i can't speak to that. too many unanswered questions, as you referenced and hopefully in this press conference, they will explain what happened last evening. >> let's go now and listen to the san bernardino police chief's office. we're expecting the lieutenant
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to call the presser to order and after that, sheriff john mcmahan as well as paul cook and kevin lacey. let's listen in. >> before we get started, i'd like to make some brief introductions. with us today is sheriff john mcmahan. chief sergio diaz from the riverside police department. chief vergarde chief charlie beck, dave singer from the u.s. marshals, special agent in charge, tim delaney from the federal bureau of investigations. assistant chief, state of california, department of fish and game and chief bill siegel, california highway patrol. if you have any questions regarding individual or specific questions about their individual
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investigations, please hold those until all the question and answer period and with that, i introduce sheriff john mcmahan. >> good afternoon. the events that occurred yesterday in the big bear area brought to close an extensive man hunt for a murder suspect, christopher dorner. our deputies in big bear responded to the report of a stolen vehicle with the subject matching the description of dorner. he crashed that vehicle and carjacked a vehicle in the oaks area. the deputies continued searching that area for the new suspect vehicle, the white pick-up truck, as well as dorner. the deputies were able to locate the vehicle, crashed, and he, dorner fled into a vacant cabin. as the deputies were arriving, we believe suspect dorner began
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firing and ambushed our deputy sheriffs that were responding. two of our deputy sheriffs were struck by gunfire. one of which was severely injured. deputy alex collins. he's currently at the hospital being treated. he went through a couple of different surgeries. i just spoke to his wife. he's in good spirs and should make a full recovery after a number of additional surgeries. unfortunately, our other deputy, detective jeremiah mckay, was pronounced deceased at 2:24 p.m. yesterday at the hospital. detective mckay is 35 years old. and has been a member of our department for 15 years. he's married and has two children, a 7-year-old daughter and a 4-month-old son. presently assigned to the station, but also a detective at
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the big bear station. my sincere condolences go out to the family. this is truly another sad day for law enforcement. our department is grieving from this event. it's just a terrible deal for all of us. the folks that are up here with me as well. have also been dealing with this suspect's behavior over the last week. we believe that this investigation is over at this point and we'll just need to move on from here. i will tell you that the deputy sheriffs that responded to this active shoot iing scene yesterd are absolutely true heroes. there were rounds being fired as you saw on some of the news coverage, was absolutely incredible. it was like a war zone and our deputies continued to go in to that area and try to neutralize and stop the threat. the rounds kept coming but the
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deputies didn't give up. they're true heroes, highly trained and i'm proud to be a member of this department and our deputy sheriffs did a great job yesterday. thank you. any questions? >> take questions now? >> yes. >> can you confirm obviously the -- that it is mr. dorner, his remains? >> i cannot absolutely positively confirm it's him. the suspect we were following and also had stolen a vehicle matched his description. his behavior based on our deputy's interaction with him inside the vacant cabin was consistent with mr. dorner's activity prior to and we are not currently involved in a man hunt any longer. our coroner's division is working on confirming an identity. >> the cabin -- on purpose --
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can you explain how that transpired? >> it was not on purpose. the tear gas canisters we used, we used a presence when we showed up, secondly, we used a cold tear gas, then we used the next tear gas was that that was pyrotechn pyrotechnic. does generate a lot of heat. we introduced those canisters into the residence and a fire erupted. >> there was some chatter that -- >> canisters are commonly referred to as burners. >> the entire time --
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>> i'm going to ask the deputy chief heading up the door to door search of big bear to answer that question for you. >> good afternoon, during the initial phases of this investigation on thursday, after his vehicle was found, dorner's vehicle was found, we did an extensive search of that area. about 80% of the cabins in that area are part time cabins. we went to each cabin if there were no signs of break-in or no open door, we noted it and moved on to the next open cabin. any other questions? >> do you know how many deputies knocked on the door? >> all those cabins in that particular area we sent teams of deputies out to check to see if
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there was any entry and if we could make contact. >> tell us about what happened that morning. lots of questions about whether he was -- days, hours, if you know that and what happened to the people that were in there. >> i don't believe that there were anybody in there on thursday. at the start of the investigation, we don't believe there was anybody in that cabin. that is somebody a rental or the owner. >> did you guys find any weapons -- personal belongings that are linked -- >> you know what? some of these things are still preliminary and as the investigation moves forr ward, we'll have more information regarding those things. >> were belongings found though? >> as i said, some of that information will become available at the conclusion of the investigation. >> this happened on thursday -- >> it could have been thursday,
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but i'm telling you at the time, there was nobody renting that cabin. >> did you tell individuals -- >> we did not find any forced entry. >> do you believe that he picked that cabin because it was close to stationwise, where the press conferences were happening? did you believe he was planning another attack or the shootout just happened because he got scared? >> at this point, that would be speculative and we'll comment on that later. >> individuals in that neighborhood who said that no one ever knocked on that door, on their doors. people who live there. that cabin was a rental, a vacation rental. the people who were cleaning it to rent it out this weekend just surprised mr. dorner there. it doesn't sound like you guys were there you know and completely cleared that area. >> i can tell you that the cabin in question had had not been rented out since february 6th
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and there was an extensive search in a this area of the cabins. thank you. >> please understand that there is an ongoing investigation and many of your questions will be answered at a later date. we're not going to be taking any further questions. the p.i.l.s will be summarizing statements and we'll be posting an update to the department website as well as sending updates via e-mail. i'd like to thank you all for come tog our press conference. thank you once again. that concludes this press conference for today. >> sheriff, was there -- >> of course, that's the end of the press conference as you could tell, the press had a lot more questions they wanted. a couple headlines here, miguel just asked a question there at the end, but you heard them talk about the fact they are not at least in their words, can't absolutely confirm that the body in the cabin that was found was that of christopher dorner. let me bring in miguel now.
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obviously, a lot of, we didn't get a lot of answers. put it that way. >> shockingly short press conference for as many questions there are hanging out there. clearly, a sensitive point for the sheriff's office about how those cabins were searched. literally, what is most shocking perhaps is that mr. dorner's truck broke down between the two ski valleys here. the cabin where these cleaners were going to clean it was less than a mile away. it was also across the street from the communications center and the command center that the sheriffs set up here. we spoke to people in that area who said that no one ever knocked on their door. no one ever asked if they saw anything strange. ever came around. the owners who owned that cabin
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apparently owneded several different cabins. why didn't police tell or sheriff's department tell individuals make sure your empty cabins are sewer. none of that happened and the guy was hiding literally right under their noses. shocking. >> and what's your feeling in terms of when we're going to get answers? particularly on this issue of an absolute confirmation on the body? that was something we all anticipated would be done by now. they say there's no active man hunt, but why not absolute confirmation? >> we would certainly except that. they seem to clearly have indication it is him. very strong indication it is him whether or not it's the family telling them that it's him. or it is, it is scars, tattoos, dental records, perhaps they want to make, perhaps they want
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to make that genetic link before they go and tell us 110% certainty that it's him. it's not very clear. he did seem to indicate they are going to know very, very soon, so perhaps they have dental records on the way and they can make that indication clear to people can rest easy, but at the same time, they say we're almost sure it's him and there is no more search for him. >> right. that would seem to make sense. thanks very much to you, miguel, there at the press conference. back now to commissioner brattan. former chief of the los angeles police department and chief during three years christopher dorner was on the force. let me just, you heard the press conference. they weren't able to answer a lot of questions the media has, the country has. but this is the fundamental question and i know it's hard because you weren't there, but do you think it was possible to capture christopher dorner alive? >> i'm not going to speak to
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that because i don't have enough details. that press conference was very unusual in terms of the minimal amount of information given out considering the large amount of questions out there. so it's quite obvious in the next several days, there's going to be a lot of intense media focus on that department on this issue. and answers are going to have to be provided at some point in time. these investigations are are very complicated. so many moving parts. had enough of them over the years, well aware of the complexity, but they've got some answers that are going to be forth come, otherwise, the drum beat of public pressure is going to become very overwhelming. >> and one thing, there's some questions about, was how much negotiations there were. miguel was reporting that there perhaps might have been cell phone conversations between dorner and police deputies, although obviously they didn't confirm that tonight. i wanted to play an exchange
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though over the radio between the police and get your reaction to it. here it is. that wasn't the one i was looking for. can we get the one with the back and forth? we have it here. okay. >> control 61. sounds like one shot fired from inside the resident. >> one shot fired from inside the residence. >> roll in and stage. >> so, how do you interpret that? >> well, the earlier clip you just showed clearly did sound like a war zone. >> right.
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and they just described it as a war zone. >> i know i was intrigued last night when i first heard about the one shot that with all that was going on, my assumption because there is not much clarity to this situation at the moment, is that possibly after the building caught fire and the shooting had stopped from within the cabin and the sheriff's deputies outside the cabin, that a single shot could have been heard. i also heard a report that you might expect with the intensity of the fire that it was ammunition going on within the cabin itself. heat gets intense enough, it will set off that ammunition. >> so that could have been what you were hearing? >> this issue of the single shot as they moved forward with the investigati investigation, they're going to have to piece this together literally, second by second, minute by minute.
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they have video that will allow them to do some of the time frame development. they have the technical capab capabilities to pull out sounds because the one shot speculation is that he committed suicide. that's something that hopefully the autopsy may help to at least initially term how in fact he died, from the fire, the smoke or was there a gun shot. the intensity of shooting into that building by the police understandable in terms of the intensity of the shooting coming out at them. it's quite likely he could have been possibly wounded during that exchange. really won't know until the autopsy results come back. >> let me bring in tom fuentes and former sniper into this conversation. tom, what is your view of the single shot theory? >> well, i would agree with commissioner that if there's one shot fired, it could be him committing suicide. it doesn't sound like a police
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would be firing a single shot if they were responding to fire. there would be more than one shot. to me, it sounds there's a good possibility if in fact that noise was a gun shot. >> and kate, what's your view. you just heard some of the radio communications in terms of the shots, but also conversations police were having during the final minutes yesterday. do you think questions out there surrounding how the police handled this are justified or not? >> totally unjustified. number one, i would never d discredit anybody who was there because i wasn't there. number two, for anybody to try and analyze what it's like when there's that volume of fire and you're there and receiving fire, to be questioned by anybody who wasn't there, that's unacceptable. >> do you think though that because two police officers had been killed that in the minds of the police there, dead or alive meant less.
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this is someone who had killed their colleagues. >> this person had a manifesto that said he was going to go down in a blaze of glory, well, be careful what you ask for. this guy had killed four people, allegedly, and had basically told everybody he was not going to be taken alive. so if i was on the ground with that information, i would use all the force i had to end that as quickly as possible. >> tom, what's the bottom line? will we ever really know what happened and when or not? >> we might not. the sheriff's office obviously will be doing an intense internal investigation to reconstruct what happened throughout the events from the time he fled the road and went to that cabin and what they wanted to do. at the end of the day, in agrees with your last guest, the subject, dorner, did not escape. he didn't kill. once you had tactical officers on sight and the area contained, perimeters established, no other
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officers were killed. he didn't escape and it ended. so the fact that there was no additional loss of life except his, which i attribute to him, he caused his own death, you know, i would agree that that's a successful resolution in that sense. >> thanks very much to all three of you. and still to come, passengers have been trapped for days on that crippled carnival cruise ship. what are we going to see when help arrives? and two of president obama's most important cabinet nominations are facing serious opposition. one of the senators threatening to delay a confirmation. rand paul is "outfront." she knows you like no one else.
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cruise ship catastrophe. more than 3,000 trapped tonight on the crippled cruise ship. three tug boats are slowly towing the ship to shore. carnival cruise line is now offering $500 to every passenger. some may find that a shockingly low number, but the ships system failed on sunday and that turned what was supposed to be a caribbean vacation to sboo a nightmare.
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martin savidge is "outfront" on the passenger's ordeal and what's ahead. >> suffering at sea. low on food, sweltering without air-conditioning and sloshing with sewage. >> the smells are, i can't describe them. our room is flooded. there's raw sewage pretty bad. walk in the hallways, you have to cover your face. we don't have any masks for breathing. it's disgusting. the worst thing ever. >> other passengers describe being told to go to the bathroom in plastic bags. pictures taken from ships coming to aid show people standing outside on the upper decks. >> there is no air-conditioning inside. we're on the deck. >> first, i think it's very important that i apologize to our guests and to their families that have been affected by this very difficult situation. >> the president of carnival
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says since sunday, the crews have been working to restore basic systems. >> there's running water and a good number of bathrooms that do work. so we obviously in a situation like this, you're going to be very sensitive to all hygiene procedures. >> trash bags to put their shoes in. >> mary and her friend both have daughters on board the triumph traveling with their dads. they posted this picture just before boarding. the two moms drove all night from texas in a mini van after hearing the fear in their daughter's voices. >> she was scared. scared of the unknown, the fear of not knowing what was going to happen next, but her biggest fear was the fear that she didn't know if she'd ever get to see her mommy again. that's hard. >> neither mom has heard from their daughter since. now, every phone call is
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answered, even during live interviews. >> hello? >> it's another false alarm. leading the moms to anxiously worry and wait. >> going to have to pray me off this dock. i mean, i really need to see her. really need to see her and hug her. >> so, instead of pacing at home, the moms are here, pacing. >> all right, pretty just shocking when you think about it. right now, scheduled though to come to shore tomorrow afternoon, right? >> yeah, that's the best estimate they've got right now. it's about 100 miles just outside of mobile, so it should come in sometime between 2:00 and 4:00 in the afternoon. they're projecting we'll have to wait overnight to see how it really turns out. >> you were reporting that carnival could offer people $500
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each. what else will they do? some may think given sort of the horror that's been happening, the filth, that might not be enough. >> no, a lot of people are saying it might not be enough. the way it's supposed to break down, everybody gets the money. on top of that, free transportation. they're going to get a full refund and a deep discount on their next cruise. but the lodgistics of -- that's a real big problem. over 3,000 people. 1500 hotel rooms have been vefred for them because you can bet the first thing they want is a nice, hot shower. >> oh, i can only imagine. oh, my gosh, these poor people. reporting from mobile, alabama. and now to the rocky road to the cabinet. two of president obama's key nominees are facing major hurdles. senator john mccain says he may filibuster chuck hagel's nomination if the president doesn't get more information on
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the attack in benghazi and a hold on general renan if he doesn't get answers about the use of drones in the united states of america. that's an issue we talked about last week when i asked the chairman of the house intelligence committee that very question, whether he could see a time when drowns were used against american citizens on american soil. >> i don't think we'll ever get there. i think it's very, very important to understand that the legal justification for using an air strike against an enemy, no matter their citizenship, is long standing in this country. they no longer have the benefit of u.s. citizenship to protect them when they're on foreign land fighting the battle of the united states. >> earlier, i spoke with rand paul of kentucky and asked him if he thinks he is wrong. >> well, he didn't say no. what i want to hear from john brennan before i agree to let his nomination go forward, that
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no cia or the department of defense cannot kill someone in america without you know, any kind of judicial proceeding. senator widen asked this, can you kill an american on american soil with a drone without a judicial hearing and brennan didn't answer the question. so, we've asked it in writing. my understanding is senator wyden has answered in writing. so if you're not going to answer no, i think that means you're telling us yes, you believe that the president has the power to kill an american in america. that is appalling. i think even overseas that if there is someone who's not in the middle of firing a gun or grenade launcher, that they really should be tried for treason if they're an american citizen, then you can proceed on with drone attacks, but really an american scitizen should be tried in court here or abroad
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unless they're imminently in the act of firing a weapon. >> and when it comes to hagel's nomination, obviously john mccain indicating he may filibuster it. tom rex is a contributing editor for foreign policy magazine. a lot of sources in the pentagon and he just wrote this about chuck hagel, quote, his big problem is that tho one much wants him running the pentagon. the prospect is a real problem now because the next secretary of defense will need to work with congress to reduce the defense budget and work with the military to reshape it to make it relevant for future conflict. at the moment, he appears to lack the political capital and the intellect yul appetite to do the latter. do you think chuck hagel can run the pentagon? >> my inclination has been to give the president the prerogative of deciding who's in his cabinet. i voted for john kerry although
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i don't agree with much he represents as far as a u.s. senator, but i think he's an honest person and i think the president has the right to decide. with regard to hagel, my first inclination was to give him the benefit of the doubt. i'm for auditing the pentagon. i think there is waste to be found. he's a soldier. served honor bly. i'm starting to have doubts and they are that if you going to run department of defense, you need to reveal if you've had financing from foreign groups. there's rumors about foreign groups that may have provided financing and i think he needs to reveal that. i am saying yes, i need more information before making a final decision. >> all right, but do you think john mccain is right to filibuster given your point, that you may not like who the president picks, but it is his prerogative whom he chooses to be in his cabinet.
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>> i think where we are with hagel is where we are with brennan. if they're not going to give us the information the only way to get it so to hold them to 60 votes. so i think if people are not willing to give you information, for example, by brennan not saying no that he won't strike americans in america, he's essentially saying yes and that is very scary and worrisome to me that you would strike americans. do you realize we do signature strikes now? we don't even name the target of people we kill with drones, if there's a line of traffic coming out of a camp and we think that is populated by people who don't like america, we bomb them. well, is that a high enough standard for americans maybe coming out of a city or an encampment somewhere in the u.s. where they're meeting and saying antigovernment things? are we going to have signature strikes in america? it opens pandora's box if you say we may as well kill
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americans in america without a trial, with politicians making the decision. >> last night, you issued the tea party response to the state of the union and you took on democrats, also republicans. but i have to ask you this senator, because last time around in 2012, four of the 16 senate candidates endorsed by the tea party, four actually won. is the tea party losing steam? >> we did better in 2010. we didn't do as well, but neither did any republicans do very well in 2012, so i don't think that's necessarily fair. i would say there's still a movement, but i think that the tea party gives energy. mostly to the republican party, but it's also equal parts chastisement to equal parts to anybody who promotes big government of deficit so the tea party isn't afraid to tell republicans you need to spend less money. >> appreciate your time. next, a 5-year-old boy held hostage in an underground bunker for six days.
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we have breaking news in the alabama hostage story. we are getting new pictures of the 6-year-old boy who was abducted and held for six days in an underground bunker. now, these are from the office of robert bentley who met with ethan and his mother today. also today for the first time since his abduction, ethan and his mother are speaking out in an interview with dr. phil and talk about those frightening six days and about how ethan is doing right now. >> give me five. i like it. >> nine days after ethan was freed from an underground bunker, the world is getting the first glimpse of this brave 6-year-old, but his mother, jennifer kirkland, tells dr. phil is recovery has been difficult. >> he is having a very hard time sleeping soundly. he's, he slings his arms and tosses and turns.
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he's, he's cried out a few times. >> in a story that captivated the nation, ethan was kidnapped at gunpoint from a schoolbus last month. his abductor had boarded the bus and killed the driver. for six day, ethan was held underground by dykes in an eight by six bunker. over the years, the vietnam veteran behaved strangely and had beaten a dog to death with a pipe, but kirkland says dykes took surprisingly good care of her son. >> when he found out ethan was autistic and took medication, i believe that's why he started caring and let ethan have the things he was letting him have. >> authorities say he fed the boy, gave him toys. kirkland said it was the hardest thing she's ever been through. >> i wanted to be there. there's not one second of this whole thing that i wouldn't have begged that man to let me have ethan and i would have turn
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around and give him to my family and took his place at any moment, any second, had i been allowed to. >> for almost a week, police tried to convince dykes to let ethan go free, but they ended up storming the bunker in a daring rescue. >> told he had stopped negotiating and grewed agitated and it was time to get ethan out of there. >> what did they do? >> i understand that a hostage team went in, put explosives on top of doors and blown the doors off and knocked him off guard with that. they went in and covered ethan with a vest and shot mr. dykes. >> did he see mr. dykes shot and killed? >> he absolutely did. he seen the army came in and shot the bad man. >> ethan who played quietly with his toys says little about what
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happened in those har rowing days, but when dr. phil asks him how he gets to school, here's what he whispers. kirkland says she has forgiven dykes and is ready to move on. >> how are you coping with this? >> i'm not sure yet. i've been so busy trying to make sure he's okay. first. i mean, i'm facing it on how he's doing. if he's doing okay today, then i'm fine. >> and now, an update on one of the more controversial state of the union attendees. it was ted nugent, a long time gun advocate, also, a critic on the president. he gave us his take, quote, it pains me deeply he is still at
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the state of the union is a great opportunity for the president to highlight some of his successes and outhis big
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goals for the fiuture. last night was no exception. the president saying the future was about the jobs. >> after shedding jobs for more than ten years, our manufacturers have added about 500,000 jobs over the past three. caterpillar is bringing jobs back from japan, ford is bringing jobs back from mexico. and this year apple will start making macs in america this year. >> the president seemed to be referring to statements made by the ceo of apple. at that time, tim cook announced he would spend $100 million to produce a mac line in the united states. that sounds like a big deal, because while tim cook is quick to point out some components are already made in america, almost every other aspect of apple's production has been outsourced to asia.
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apple, well, according to labor economist dan lorian, the move will mean about 200 new american jobs. so while apple is bringing production to the united states, and that's a good thing, should they have been condition garage la -- congratulated during the state of the union? the $100 million investment is 0.0073% of apple's current cash on hand of more than $100 billion. and if we're congratulating apple on creating 200 new american jobs, we should congratulate leanovo from china, because they said they would make their think-branded computers at a facility in north carolina, creating 115 new american jobs. that's pretty darn good, too. should the president have mentioned them? we'll be right back.
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